The First Step Towards Becoming from Ahlul-Bid'ah;
The Reason that it causes one to leave the Sunnah; The Texts & Warnings Against it; How it happens; Why one would do so despite all the warnings; The Dispraiseworthy outcome!
- Sitting with Ahlul-Bid'ah is the first step to becoming from Ahlul-Bid'ah!
Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee al-Madkhalee (hafidhahullaah) said: If you sit with a person of bid'ah, it's your first step to becoming from ahl-bidah & leaving Ahl-Sunnah; your Deen has weakened!
Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee al-Madkhalee (hafidhahullaah) said: Everyone who has left the path of Ahl-Sunnah has [left] due to his sitting with the people of desires & bid'ah. إبانةصغرى
- The Reason Listening to Ahlul-Bid'ah - or Reading their Material - causes a person to leave the Sunnah
Point 170 of Imam Barbaharee's Sharh-us-Sunnah: Sufyaan ath-Thawree (rahimahullaah) said, "Whoever listens to a person of bid'ah has left the protection of Allaah, and is entrusted to it - meaning the bid'ah."
Shaikh Muhammad bin Ramzaan Al-Haajiree (hafidhahullaah) said concerning this scholarly warning: "Because he has mixed truth with falsehood, and the light with darkness, and the correct with the error-ridden, and that which is pure with that which is not pure, and health with sickness, and that which is pure and clean with filth. So beware, if you are pure and clean, don't dirty this. Every bid'ah is misguidance, so why would you listen (to a person of bid'ah) or say "I'll read this book (of bid'ah)." Leave it off! There is no benefit in reading the books of the people of bid'ah, because it will affect you and damage you. And it will cause you confusion. And you will find people who are not sure of the minhaj, because they read from the people of Ahlul-Bid'ah like this. They are moving back and forth. He either reads their books or sits with them, or listens to their tapes or videos, and he begins moving towards them. So then he becomes soft with regards to his Deen. He no longer has clarity with regards to his minhaj.
And you find that he becomes 'ateefi (emotional) with regards to people of bid'ah. And he begins describing the Salafee brothers as "shadeed" (strong), and he sees himself as being soft and lenient with the people of bid'ah.
But the truth is he is "shadeed" with his Salafee brothers, because he accuses them of being "shadeed" and he leaves them. And he is lenient with the people of bid'ah, because he is with them. So, he does not affect the people of bid'ah in inviting them to the Sunnah, and he lost the love of his Salafee brothers, the clarity of his relationship with them.
And this is one of the entrances that shaytan enters from."
- Some of The Abundance of Texts, Athaar Concerning This Serious Matter
Allaah, Subhanahu wa Ta'aala, commanded (what means): And when you (Muhammad) see those who engage in a false conversation about Our Verses (of the Qur'an) by mocking at them, stay away from them till they turn to another topic. And if Shaitan (Satan) causes you to forget, then after the remembrance sit not you in the company of those people who are the Dhaalimoon (polytheists and wrong-doers, etc.). (Al-An'aam, ayah 68)
And it has already been revealed to you in the Book (this Qur'an) that when you hear the Verses of Allaah being denied and mocked at, then sit not with them, until they engage in a talk other than that; (but if you stayed with them) certainly in that case you would be like them. Surely, Allaah will collect the hypocrites and disbelievers all together in Hell (An-Nisa`, ayah 140) Imam At-Tabari (rahimahullaah) said these above ayat refer to people engaged in their batil (falsehood), whether it be shirk, bid'ah or sin.
Allaah, Ta'aala, said (what means): And (all) the Most Beautiful Names belong to Allaah, so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny (or utter impious speech against) His Names. They will be requited for what they used to do. (Al-A'raf, ayah 180)
Abu Hurairah (radiallaahu anhu) said: the Messenger of Allaah (salallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said: A person is upon the deen of his friend, so let each one of you look at whom he befriends. [Saheeh; Refer to Silsilah as-Saheehah of al-Albaani (no.927)]
Ibn Mas'ood (radiallaahu 'anhu) said, "Indeed a person walks alongside and accompanies the one whom he loves and who is like him." [Al-Ibaanah (2/476)]
Ibn 'Abbaas (radiallaahu 'anhumma) said, "Do not sit with the people of desires, for verily their sittings causes diseases to enter the hearts." [Al-Ibaanah #371]
Abu ad-Dardaa (radiallaahu 'anhu) said, "It is from the fiqh (understanding of a person) that he [chooses] those whom he walks with, whom he enters upon (visits) and whom he sits with." [Al-Ibaanah (2/477)]
Also, Yahyaa bin Sa'eed al-Qattaan (rahimahullaah) said: "When Sufyaan ath-Thawree came to Basrah, he began to look into the affair of ar-Rabee' bin Subaih and the people's estimation of him. He asked them, 'What is his madhhab?,' and they said, 'His madhhab is but the Sunnah.' He then asked, 'Who is his companionship?' And they replied, 'The people of Qadr.' So he replied, 'In that case he is a Qadari.'" After quoting this above athar, Ibn Battah (rahimahullaah) said: "Allaah's mercy be upon Sufyaan ath-Thawree. He has indeed spoken with wisdom, and he spoke the truth. He spoke with knowledge that is in agreement with the Book and the Sunnah and what is necessitated by wisdom and what the people of sure insight know. Allaah, the Exalted, said (what means): O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitaanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those other than you (outside your religion or upon other than the right way) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. (Aali Imraan, ayah 118)." [Al-Ibaanah (2/453)]
Mufaddal ibn Mahallal (rahimahullaah) warned: "If the companion of the bid'ah were to speak to you about his bid'ah at the beginning of sitting with him, then you would have kept away from him and left. But he will speak to you at the beginning with the Sunnah, then he will put in you his bid'ah and your heart accepts it, so when will it leave your heart?" [Kitab ut-Tafsir, no. 3004]
Imaam as-Saaboonee (d. 449H, rahimahullaah) said about Ahlus-Sunnah, "They follow the Salafus-Saalih the Imaams and the Scholars of the Muslims, and they cling to the firm deen that they clung to and to the clear truth. And they hate Ahul-Bid'ah (the People of Innovation) who innovate into the Deen that which is not from it. They do not love them and they do not keep company with them. They do not listen to their sayings, nor sit with them, nor argue with them about the Deen, nor debate with them. Rather, they protect their ears from hearing their futility; things, which if they pass through the ears and settle in the hearts, will cause harm and cause doubts and wicked ideas to appear. And concerning this Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, sent down: And when you see people engaged in vain discourse about Our Signs, then turn away from them unless they turn to a different theme." (al-An'aam, ayah 68)
Ayyoob as-Sakhtiyaanee (d. 131, rahimahullaah) said: "Aboo Qilaabah said to me: 'O Ayyoob! Memorize from me four (things): Do not speak regarding the Qur`an with your opinion, and beware of (speaking about) al-Qadr, and if the Companions of Muhammad (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) are mentioned then withhold, and do not give the people of ahwaa' your hearing so they cast into it what they wish." [Al-Ibaanah #397]
Muhammad bin Seereen (d. 110H, rahimahullaah), if he heard speech from a person of bid'ah, he would put his fingers in his ears. [Al-Ibaanah #484]
Muslim bin Yasaar said: "Do not open up your hearing to a person of bid'ah, so he pours inside it what you don't have the ability to take out of your heart." [Al-Ibaanah #436]
Sufyaan ath-Thawree (d.161H, rahimahullaah) said: "Whoever lends his hearing to a person of bid'ah has gone out from the protection of Allaah and is entrusted to himself." [Al-Ibaanah #444]
Ahmad ibn Hanbal (d.241H, rahimahullaah) said: "So safety - if Allaah has willed - is in abandoning sitting with them to discuss their innovation and misguidance." [Related by Ibn Battah in Al-Ibaanah]
Ibn Battah (d. 387H, rahimahullaah) said: "So fear Allaah, O Muslims! The good opinion you have of yourself and the knowledge you have that you are on the correct way, should not lead you to risk your Deen by sitting down with some of these people of desires, thinking, 'I will intrude upon them in order to debate with them or to expose their ideas.' However, they are more severe form of Fitnah than the Dajjal, and their speech clings to a person more strongly than a severe itch, and can burn the hearts more than a blazing flame can. And I have seen a group of people who used to curse and revile the People of Desires. Then they went and sat with them in order to contest with them and refute them. Then the cheerful, open attitude, the hidden deception and the subtle disbelief continued until they became inclined towards them." [Al-Ibaanah (2/470)]
Also comes this narration. Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn al-Qaasim related to us, saying: Ahmad ibn al-Hasan narrated to us saying: Sulaymaan ibn al-Ash'ath narrated to us, saying: 'Abdullaah ibn Chubbi al-Anteeq narrated to us, saying: Yaws ibn Asbaat narrated to us, saying: I heard Muhammad ibn an-Nadr al-Haarithee say: Whoever listens to a person of innovation - and knows that he is a person of innovation - then protection is taken away from him, and he is left to himself. [al-Imaam al-Haafiz Abul-Qaasim Habatullaah ibn al-Hasan ibn Mansoor at-Tabaree al-Laalikaa' ee (d.418 A.H.) reports in his "Sharh Usool I'tiqaad Ahlis-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah" - Volume 1 Pages 135-136 No. 252]
- How a person leaves Ahlus-Sunnah
Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee al-Madkhalee (hafidhahullaah) also said: Thus you find that everyone who leaves Ahlus Sunnah the reason is due to their sitting with the people of desires and bid'ah. Therefore it is upon the person to fear for himself, staying far away from the people of desires and bid'ah. And he should not lend them his ear. How many people have we seen from those whom it was said about them, 'he is strong and firmly established' but when he sat with the people of bid'ah he deviated?! When he opened his gathering for them and they converged upon him, he deviated, thus he became from their affiliates, on their side. So he began to defend them. First he began by making excuses for them, having doubts about the reports and statements concerning them. (Saying) 'Who reported this? Who are those who conveyed this? Who said this to you? Have you verified this about them? Did you verify it? Bring him to me; perhaps they intended such and such.'
Then after this they became their companions - and Ahlus Sunnah became their enemies as we have seen during this era. And you have many examples of this.
- The Dispraiseworthy Results
The great Imaam of Ahlus-Sunnah, Sufyaan al-Thawree (d. 161H, rahimahullaah) said:
"Whoever sits with a person of innovation (bid'ah) cannot escape one of three things:
1. He is a trial and tribulation for others.
2. Something may fall into his heart that remains with him and causes him to enter the Hellfire,
3. Or he will say, 'By Allaah, I do not care about what they say and I have full confidence in myself.'
Whoever feels that they are not in need of Allaah to safeguard his religion - even for the blinking of an eye - then He will take it from him." [Refer to al-Bida' wa al-Nahyu 'anha [p. 104] of Ibn Waddah with the checking of Badr al-Badr]
- More Dispraiseworthy Results
Shaikh Ahmad Ibn 'Umar Bazmool (hafidhahullaah), in his explanation of the Athar of Imaam Ibn Seereen (rahimahullaah), mentioned the following benefits:
Khateeb Al-Baghdaadee (d. 463H, rahimahullaah) reported in 'Al-Faqeeh' from Umayyah al Jumhee (radiallaahu 'anhu) from the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) who said: Verily from the signs of the Hour is that knowledge will be taken from the asaaghir (smaller, younger ones).
Ibnul Mubaarak (d. 181H, rahimahullaah) said that: the asaaghir are the Ahlul-bidah. And amongst the harms (resulting) from taking knowledge from Ahlul-Bid'ah are:
 The one who takes knowledge from them will become immersed in their innovations (heresies).
 The student's heart will become attached to the Innovator (mubtadi'). The student will (also) have love for him, and the person is associated with the one he loves.
 Ahlul-Bidah will increase in great numbers if knowledge is acquired from them.
 The people will be deceived regarding what (Ahlul-Bidah) are upon when (knowledge is acquired from them).
 Sitting with (Ahlul-Bid'ah) leads to turning away from the truth.
 The one who sits with (Ahlul-Bidah) will be deprived of wisdom.
The shaikh [Ahmad Ibn 'Umar Bazmool] then mentioned that some of the people of knowledge explained 'Asaaghir' to mean the small students of knowledge, and that this meaning is proven to be true when the small students abandon the major Scholars.
- The Reason why one would choose to get close to the Innovator despite all the texts and warnings!
Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee al-Madkhalee (hafidhahullaah) said:
Excerpt: "'Abdullaah ibn 'Awn Artaban - rahimahullaah - said: 'Those who sit with the innovators are more dangerous to us than the innovators.'
Why? Because the people of innovation have manifested their affair and displayed their condition, thus the people are cautious of them. But as for the person who manifests that he is Sunni and upon the 'Aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah, and upon the methodology of Ahlus Sunnah, while he sits with them (the innovators) this person is more dangerous to us than they are. Why? Because the deception and trickery from him is greater. He deceives the common person, he deceives the common people. They are deceived by him from two perspectives..."
Excerpt: "...It is not possible for you to get close to [the Innovator] except that the Religion has lost value in your heart!..."
Taken from the explanation of 'Al-Ibaanah As-Sughra,' by Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee, Lesson #4.
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The Prohibition of Sitting with People of Bid'ah: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=16&Topic=7196&srow=1&erow=20
Judging a Person By His Friends and Companionship: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=2258
Shaikh Ramzaan's Sharh of Point 170 from Imam Barbaharee's Sharh-us-Sunnah: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=12331&sortby=desc
Shaikh Fawzaan's Explanation of Al-Fudayl Ibn 'Iyaad's statements Concerning People of Bid'ah: http://www.dusunnah.com/images/PDFs/fudayl1.pdf
Don't Give Your Ears to the speech of Ahlul-Bid'ah; Don't Lend Your Eyes to their material; Don't Sit with Ahlul-Bid'ah - Prohibition of Sitting with, Listening to, Reading material of Ahlul-Bid'ah!: http://maktabah-alfawaaid.blogspot.com/2012/05/when-ahlul-bidah-talk-do-not-give-them.html
Hijrah from Innovators and Evildoers by Ibn Taymiyyah: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7483&sortby=desc
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Statements of the Salaf regarding Sitting with Ahlul-Bid'ah: http://salaficentre.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Statements_of_the_Salaf_-_Reg_Sitting_With_Ahlul_Bidah.pdf
What Shaikh Muhammad ibn Hadee al-Madkhalee said concerning those who leave Salafiyah, selling their religion for imagined harm: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=10891
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Subhanak Allaahuma wa bihamdika ash-hadu anlaa illaaha illa anta astaghfiruka wa atubu ilayk
If I said anything correct, then it is from Allaah (subhanahu wa taa'ala), and if I erred, then that is from me and shaytan.
- Allaah, The Most High, said (what means): And I (Allaah) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone). (Adh-Dhariyat, ayah 56)
- Allaah, The Most High, said (what means): And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad, (salallaahu 'alaihi wasallam)) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers' way. We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination. (An-Nisa, ayah 115)
- The Prophet (salallaahu 'alaihiwasallam) said, "Hold firmly to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs after me. Hold onto it with your molar teeth. And beware of newly invented affairs, since every newly invented affair is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance and every innovation is in the Fire." [Ahmad (4/126), at-Tirmidhee (no. 2676), al-Haakim (1/96) and by al-Baghawee in Sharhus-Sunnah (1/105)]
- Prophet Muhammad (salallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) told his daughter Fatimah: "...I am a blessed Salaf for you." (Bukhari, Muslim)
- "Adhere to the narrations of the Salaf (the Prophet and Sahaaba), even if the people were to abandon you. And beware of the opinions of people, no matter how much they beautify it with speech." - Imaam al-Awzaa'ee [d. 157H, rahimahullaah]
- Abu Hanifah [d.150H, rahimahullaah] said: "Stick to the narrations and the way of the Salaf (Predecessors), and beware of newly invented matters, for all of it is innovation." [as-Suyooti]
- Abdullaah bin 'Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) said: "Every bid'ah(religious innovation) is misguidance, even if people think it is good." [Al-Lalikaii in Sharh Usul Itiqad Ahl Al-Sunnah wa Al-Jama'ah Vol 1. P134, no.111]
- Allaah's Messenger (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) said, "I have left you upon clear proof, its night is like its day. No one deviates from it except one who is destroyed, and whoever lives (long) from amongst you will see great controversy. So stick to what you know from my Sunnah (example) and the Sunnah of the orthodox, rightly-guided caliphs. Cling to that with your molar teeth, and stick to obedience even if it is to an Abyssinian slave, since the believer is like the submissive camel - wherever he is led, he follows." [Ahmad]
- Ahmed ibn Hanbal [d.241H, rahimahullaah] said: "The Fundamental Principles of the Sunnah with us are: Holding fast to what the Companions of the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) were upon. And taking them (and their way) as a model to be followed. And the abandonment of (religious) innovations, and every innovation is misguidance." [Usool as-Sunnah]
- Every issue of aqeedah (creed), 'ibaadah (worship) or manhaj (methodology) which the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah has not provided a text for and upon which the Companions never agreed upon is falsehood, vain and innovated.